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BEHEMOTH CONTROL DIVISION IN THE HEART OF THE TBILISI PARLIAMENT
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Debbie, darling,

Could you please quote your source where you copied this and pasted it
to the newsgroup? Do you have any commentary on the articles? Could
you at least provide the authors and the publications associated with them?

Thanks in advance,

Galina
MARTIN NAUGHTON outlines the British Petroleum pipeline mastery over
Rep. of Georgia Parliament
BEHEMOTH CONTROL DIVISION IN THE HEART OF THE TBILISI PARLIAMENT
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2008-02-04 16:44:53 UTC
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Mickey, darling,

You are reaching the Orthodox newsgroup with your post. Please provide
sources and URLs for your material so that people can verify the sources
for themselves.

Thanking you in advance for posting sources and URLs,

Galina
Man! That Martin guy really laid it out how BP controls not only the
BTC oil pipeline but also the Georgian government, especially the
parliament!
m***@yahoo.com
2008-03-10 15:17:13 UTC
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MORE THAN ONE SECRET MICROPHONE in Parliament in Republic of
Georgia......more than one hundred MPs paid and compromised by BP Oil
Pipeline monies and trade offs.

HEY......DID YOU HEAR IT YET? FIREBIRD AURORA is undermining the
soul of Georgia and the Parliament and new PM are buying up Euro
Bonds----which will deprive the children and grandchildren of Georgian
parents today of their last teeny tetris, and this insider network
will auction off all the rivers and waterfalls and forests and
farmland and mines of Georgia, for a fiddle and a song! It won't take
long!!

Who in the Parliament in Tbilisi LOVES their Georgian people? Not
Nino Burjanadze! Not new PM Lado Gurgenidze!

TBILISI TBILISI TBILISI TBILISI
TBILISI TBILISI
TBILISI TBILISI
TBILISI TBILISI
TBILISI TBILISI

re: Georgia needs a totally new opposition, or she will sink. Georgia
needs a totally new opposition, or she will sink.
Georgia needs a totally new opposition, or she will sink.
Georgia needs a totally new opposition, or she will sink.


Matthew L. Bryza on "Fully Reloaded Georgian Parliament the Best Shot
for the future of Georgia?"

TEXT
Fully Reloaded Georgian Parliament the Best Shot for the future of
Georgia? AP News

Nov. 7th, 2007, Tbilisi

by Matthew L. Bryza

I believe Ms. Hammick writing for JANE'S DEFENSE WEEKLY upon the
upcoming election in Tbilisi, was practicing the art of, as F. Scott
Fitzgerald once said, of "the test of a first rate intelligence is
the
ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and
still retain the ability to function".

How so? She was evidently flipping through her mind the several
conflicting tentative dates set for the parliamentary elections,
since
late 2003. Since Nov. 23rd, 2003, when President Saakashvili
parachuted into his position as ruler of Georgia, and the rarely
clarified-in-the-media Georgian constitutional amendments made in
December, 2005, most people are understandably deeply confused and
divided on basic democratic procedures here, regarding efforts that
would help the majority of people, rather than propping up some cold
and abstract ideology in its stead, helping insiders only.

Here is a blurb from Freedom House back in mid 2005, to refresh your
memory of the jigsaw puzzle of parliamentary election procedure here:

[First, Saakashvili and NED and the Liberty Institute set in train
the protests which brought him to power on 23rd November, 2003.

Thus, it can be argued, that parliamentary elections should have
been held in Nov. of 2007.]

15.06.2005 - Source: Freedom House, the 2004 elections were somewhat
free and fair; however, the level of political pluralism had been
severely reduced, as no party could compete with National Movement-
Democrats

("Nations in Transit 2005") [#32929], [ID 4745]


"...the elections of 2004 were considered generally free and fair,


though voter lists were still not fully complete. There was no


harassment of the opposition. However, the level of political


pluralism was sharply reduced as the former ruling party completely


disbanded and no political group could compete with Mikheil


Saakashvili and his National Movement-Democrats. Only one opposition


bloc of the New Rights and Industrialists was able narrowly to


overcome the 7 percent threshold for party lists."

RHETORICAL QUESTION: Compared to Georgians and their 6 or 7 thousand
year old fiercely loyal and devoted family traditions, how many
Americans do you know who actually look after their old parents and
grandparents themselves, and do not put them into criminally USA-
style overpriced and shamefully profitable nursing/senior/memory care
homes, backed up in large measure by MEDICARE political insiders,
working along with State and Federal congresspersons? Probably two,
one, or none. How many Americans typically speak and read three
languages and alphabets, and who work 45 to 65 hours a week with not
a
tetri of paid overtime, and without complaining about the total lack
of labor laws in their Parliament??? Again, nearly zero. You can
count such Americans on one hand! Here, in Georgia , such models of
self-sacrifice and duty are as common as khachipuri, their local
grilled cheese sandwich.

These diamantine Georgians illustrated briefly above are the citizens
who belong in their Parliament, and not only elites and millionaire
businessmen/women, and THEY should be the ones to select a new
president, if there is to be any hope of true democracy here in
Georgia any year soon.

A president such as "Misha" [short for Saakashvili], who galloped
into
power overnight on the day quoted above, would be fairly tested by
the
people of his new democracy, if and only if, the people themselves
gave him something like his report card grades after the last 4 long
years in which he could evaluate himself too, in careful and painful
self-examination. The result of a revitalizing and invigorating new
parliamentary election process, in which a `new batch of 2007/2008
parliament MPs', not in any way part of Saakashvili's clan, nor part
of the current Opposition's clan, could and would implement fresh and
vigorous legislation and programs. If only they had been allowed to
do so at the end of 2007, a global miracle would have been born - a
real beacon of light !!!

A real beacon of light, especially when one considers the helpful and
democracy-building funding from outside agencies of the last 4 years,
thanks to credits and currencies from the USAID, the EU, the UN,
SECO/
SDC, the German government, et al, who have greatly helped make many
of the improvements the Georgians have desperately needed, after the
mayhem and ugly scenarios following the collapse of communism in this
nation.

Isn't this the nub of the conflict today, and a major cause of the
loss of public and international confidence in the current
Saakashvili
government? Aren't I correct?

Georgians themselves, excluding the ever and over and twice again
prospering current Members of Parliament, the normal members of the
legendary Family of Georgia are cut off at the knees from any kind of
truly democratic structures and planks and platforms, in nearly every
respect, in the current situation? Can anyone remember how
Shevardnadze reinstated most of his Parliament after he dismissed
them, more or less, can you dig out these events from the faded
memories of the past? How many key players in Saakashvili's clan
worked at one time [for quite a long while, indeed] on the monorail
of
Shevaradnadze's express train to disunity and oblivion and hunger?
Will not they simply repeat the same mistakes?

So we might conclude after an hour or two of productive thought on
this matter, [i.e., of a fresh and uncompromised Parliament], that
the
Georgian people were indeed deprived of a timely, and legal, and in-
their-favor, parliamentary election, in November of 2007, which
might
have brought about the promising guiding-light of fresh teams of
Georgian MBAs and MDs and Masters degree winners, coming back from
USA, UK, and Germany, the EU, et al.

Along with the principals and top teachers of Tbilisi and Kutaisi and
Batumi and Telavi schools, and Georgian physician-activists for the
desperately needed hospital care and health care here for the
struggling desperately people of Georgia, and along with them also
the
passionate property rights activists, and the grey panthers of
organized parties of disgruntled pensioners, and the many magnificent
and proud Georgians, which include displaced farmers from their
hectares who are being replaced by huge corporate conglomerate
automated farms, owned by many current MPs, these urgently needed new
MPs -- who could have stampeded into parliament as newly elected MPs
this new year, if just given the chance -- and that this imagined
truly democratic and model parliamentary election, could have come
into being at the most opportune time for the natives of this land,
late 2007, early 2008, consisting of the non-elite of Georgia
basically. They would have swept out most of Misha's MPs, and along
with them the bulk of old Shevaradnadze and Moscow-resonating fiddle
stringers too, who/which are frequently and deeply embedded in the
half-dozen or more, old and very tiresome Opposition parties here, as
time rolls on like tank treads?

These never recruited and never elected new MPs would have averted
the
hurried and hasty presidential elections of Jan. 5, 2008, and would
just as likely waited until a late 2008 election date to install
their
new president. By this time there would have been nearly a full year
of generous and hospitable Georgian debates, within a newly
transfigured Parliament, MPs most probably not in tune with Misha
during this hypothetical 2008 year's passing, and they would all have
had to agree and/or disagree with each other in a gentlemanly or
ladylike way, until end of 2008. Political pluralism would have
flowered like the Garden of Eden, and new and friendly coalitions
would have emerged [only in this scenario] and triumphed from the
basic reforms of Saakashvili's first two years.

These new and unheard of , but now lost to Georgia's better and
undiscovered destiny, these many freshly minted MPs could have TRULY
debated issues and policies and finances, rather than the mud
slinging
ejaculations and shout spasms we see today, and these angels of
democracy were in many aspects stolen from the garden of justice,
just
as its flowers were showing her firsts blossoms. These
hypothetical
MPs might have had the chance to vote in Parliament on the issues
TRULY important to THEM and to their constituents, and not just to
pocket USAID money for imported goods laden highways, nor toady up
to
the Pentagon's strategies for Georgia, nor kneel to the proponents of
Vladimir Putin, his inner team evidently NOT allies of Georgia, nor
would these ideal MPs have supported the old business ties to Russia
that are still deeply entrenched here, but not clearly seen, and
counterproductive to a new democracy.

I am truly astonished by the bright and hopeful and hard-working and
self-sacrificing Georgians in their 20s and 30s and 40s and 50s also,
who are well educated with admirable characters and genuine integrity
and who want to make a big difference in their country's destiny, in
a
disciplined communitarian manner, women most welcome too, to join the
ranks, and they are all blocked by the current `map of democracy', by
both teams, Saakashvili's team, and the motley cluster of Opposition
teams. Typical and honest Georgians must control the future of
Georgia , and not American military investment conglomerates nor old
Russian mafia business networks.

These sterling Georgians mentioned directly above are the citizens
who belong in Parliament and THEY should select a president, if there
is to be any hope of true democracy here any year soon. After this
"turn-around", Presidential elections could be arranged to coincide
with Parliamentary elections, as in other nations. After such a
model transition, Saakashvili would go down in history as a fine and
admired agent of transition, a team player who saw he should enter
private business after 4 years at the helm, rather than what is in
store for his legacy should he win the election this Jan. 5th. His
past achievements would quite likely be blemished beyond repair by
another term in office.

These new hypothetical MPs would be loyal to Georgia, and her best
interests, and not to Saakashvili, as if he were their beloved CIS
factory boss, or a Godfather in a Francis Ford Coppola film, or a
mirror of Putin's autocracy, and these new hypothetical MPs would not
and could not be loyal, either, to any tricked-out business interests
of the old Opposition, one would pray.

Georgia needs a totally new opposition, or she will sink.





































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